Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #33-37

This is almost the end of the Giffen period, so let’s power through the rest of the issues before the earth-shattering #38.
(no spoilers in the comments for those who don’t know what I’m talking about… let them keep a sliver of hope for a while)
Get your antidepressants ready, because this is going to be a long one.


Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #33 (1992)
written by Tom & Mary Bierbaum
pencils by David A. Williams & Chris Sprouse
cover by Karl Story

Because there isn’t enough stuff going on in the present day, we’re introducing a “lost Legionnaire” from the past.

We follow Chameleon Boy in his search for R.J.Brande, who he last saw even earlier than the five year gap.
It’s understandable for him to undertake this personal mission, it’s not like there’s anything else going on. Other than the Moon blowing up killing billions of people LESS THAN A MONTH AGO and with Earth under military siege.
(yes I’m still going on about that)

Lightning Lad… or rather Proty I, after the insane Annual #3 retcon… feels guilty about not following Chameleon Boy, since this involves the very important Kid Quantum.

This entire thing is about something called the Soul of Antares, which the Dominators also want.

They also recruit Hunter, which makes me wonder: if they had access to him, why the heck did they bother to use Roxxas at the beginning of the series?
Hunter is WAY more emotionally stable and reliable: did Roxxas bring ANYTHING to the table?

Chameleon Boy eventually finds Brande.

So what the heck is this about? We are informed of the first time Brande interacted with the Proteans, several years ago…

…and that their race resisted an attempted takeover by Glorith, because hoping we could go too long without bringing her into this was asking too much.

This is an interesting concept but a weird retcon (what else is new for 5YL?), because apparently the ENTIRE Protean race lost sentience with the exception of only seven individuals.
Which isn’t a bad idea for a plot, but is a bit at odds with how both Proty and Proty II were initially considered just regular members of their species. And, most importantly, the fact that we did see Proteans in the background in SEVERAL stories.

Hunter ends up defeating Chameleon Boy rather easily, and R.J.Brande is acting uncharacteristically cowardly.

Luckily for the Legionnaire, Hunter is so fixated on hunting that he gives him a fighting chance if it means pushing Brande to reveal the location of the Soul of McGuffin.
So I guess that answers my question for why the Dominators didn’t hire him… Hunter ALSO sucks at his job.

Chameleon Boy also spots Kid Quantum showing up and declaring that he is the Soul of Antares, while also hyping up Kid Quantum’s retcon membership.

It never ceases to amaze me just how much Glorith sucks as an overarching villain.
Kid Quantum’s thing is that he needed to fake his own death to make sure she’d never find him… something that doesn’t really work considering we BARELY saw Glorith as a villain, and what we did wasn’t impressive enough to make this work.

It’s ultimately the Proteans who save the day, because they were impersonating a couple of supporting characters that I didn’t find interesting enough to cover.

That was a bit lame, but having Chameleon Boy grow extra arms so he can punch more is really creative.

And that’s how Kid Quantum ends up fulfilling his destiny.

Or is it? His ship is taken over by yet another dangling subplot.

Back on Earth, meanwhile, SW6 Saturn Girl notices SW6 Lightning Lad is acting like “his old self”. Because for some unfathomable reason the Bierbaums are convinced that he had a different personality before his death.

But more importantly, they find a couple more teenage heroes who survived the Dominators.
Remember Crystal Kid, from Legion Academy? He’s not really that important.
But we do meet two new heroes: the feline Catspaw and magician Dragonmage…

…and more importantly a familiar face.
This is Danielle, who you might remember as the young sister of Invisible Kid II who was possessed by Computo in the AWESOME Annual #1… and who we now learn gained the power to talk to computers.

The text page is a profile of Kid Quantum, which is THE ONLY PLACE that actually mentions what his powers were.

He’s also retroactively established as being the first Legionnaire to die (!!!) and the whole reason for why the Legion doesn’t allow tech-based powers.

The Grid: 17 pages out of 25
7 pages without a grid
0 splash pages
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Legion significance: 4/10
This is a truly bizarre case. Kid Quantum’s story doesn’t really go anywhere in this period… but he’s a legitimate character in the Reboot.
Because that infodump about his death and him being the reason for the rule about tech powers will actually play out in the Reboot, where we will get to SEE those exact events!
He will also have a sister joining the Legion later on, even becoming leader.
In addition to all that, three of the kids meeting the SW6 will later become Legionnaires.
Despite all of the above… the kids will get proper introductions later, and the influence of Kid Quantum on THIS continuity isn’t all that much.

 Silver Age-ness: 1/10
One of the Proteans disguises himself as a robot taking bribes.

Depression scale: 0/10
This is just the SECOND time that the despair is this low (last time was issue 9 if you’re curious).

Does it stand the test of time? 6/10
It’s the first 5YL issue in a while that I don’t actively hate, so… an improvement, I guess?
The whole “Soul of Antares” has potential and a few fans, but it falls completely flat for me.
Sorry but I can’t manage to feel ANYTHING for Kid Quantum’s plight and his fight for the freedom of his people! On paper, it’s a pretty good plot. But without ANY introduction, all I’m left with is asking myself why should I even care.


Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #34 (1992)
plot and breakdowns by Keith Giffen
dialogue and story assist by Tom & Mary Bierbaum
pencils by Jason Pearson
cover by Karl Story

Oh, right, there’s supposed to be a war going on during this.

Leland McCauley, who you might remember as Brande’s ruthless business rival, is offering to the United Planets to disable the Dominator technology that is jamming all communications.
For a price, obviously.

We also see how the United Planets get their news about the Earth invasion.
Is that a Tamaranean woman? It would be ironic if the 5YL timeline was one of the very few where Starfire’s home planet doesn’t explode.

I’ll be honest, my eyes are just glazing over the war stuff at this point.

I’ve also completely lost track of what is supposed to be the relationship between Universo, the Dark Circle and the Dominators.
No, really, someone please explain to me: who is working with who at this point?

Me, after every single 5YL review.

We also follow Circe, Bounty and Spider Girl breaking into a Science Police base.
I should point out that, up to now:
A) Spider Girl has done nothing in the proper comic. We’ve only been told about her escapades in the text pages.
B) We still don’t know who Bounty is, why she’s around, and SHE HASN’T DONE ANYTHING
C) Circe was the one manipulating Sun Boy on behalf of the Dominators, but I guess we’re supposed to consider her one of the good guys now because she feels bad after they killed untold millions?

At this point we have TWENTY-EIGHT ACTIVE LEGIONNAIRES but we’re following these three. Why is this book even called “Legion of Super-Heroes” if the Legionnaires are the characters showing up the least!?

I mean those three are the ones who purge the Dominator database…

…while the Legion is still SITTING ON ITS #SS.
Laurel at least the excuse of recovering after the B.I.O.N. fight…

…but Cosmic Boy SUCKS.
With EVERYTHING THAT’S GOING ON, you’re seriously sitting this one out because the United Planets asked you!?
SINCE WHEN DOES ANYONE CARE ABOUT WHAT THE UNITED PLANETS ASK???

The lesson from this arc is that superheroes are completely useless and that you should just let cops, soldiers and spies handle the serious stuff.

Even the Substitute Commandos, who used to be THE ONLY ONES DOING ANYTHING, are just stuck debating about the fact that Sade was more effective than them.
And Sade is YET ANOTHER CHARACTER WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT!!!

EVEN WORSE, there’s even a debate about the fact that Grinn was right in detonating the Dominator chambers.
Honestly I even forgot that happened because that’s what, the fourth time in this series that countless people died in a cataclysm? I’m so desensitized at this point that all the destruction porn is merging together.
Also, that guy who seems to be eight feet tall is supposed to be Tyroc.
You know, the worst dressed Legionnaire ever with the power to make random stuff happen when he screams? Yeah that guy has been completely useless the entire time.

Possibly worst of all: Mon-El, who is ACKNOWLEDGED IN THE STORY as being able to stop this war single-handedly, is just sitting this one out because of vague philosophical reasons.
So… is this comic SERIOUSLY asking us to side with the murder-happy unknown and not with Space Jesus With A Cape Mon-El????

Speaking of being desensitized: NOBODY ELSE has acknowledged that even three more Legionnaires died two issues ago!!!

Duo Damsel trying to comfort Element Lad would hit differently if I wasn’t distracted by her giant anime eyes.

And just when I thought I couldn’t possibly detest this issue more… the walking corpse of Sun Boy resurfaces.

Element Lad is also planning to COMPLETELY IGNORE A PLANETARY WAR, but thankfully he’s reminded of his own planet falling to an invasion and pledges to do something.

As does Laurel Gand, who takes an important Dominator prisoner.

But one of the most important factors in the war ISN’T EVEN CONNECTED TO THE LEGION: because the Khunds are preparing to attack the Dominator homeworld, the dominators cut off sending further aid to their Earth forces.

The text page has the United Planets politely asking the Legion of Super-Heroes to avoid providing any sort of help.
Don’t worry, they were already doing nothing useful anyway.

The Grid: 23 pages out of 24. I am going insane.
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Legion significance: 0/10
The story s-l-o-w-l-y progresses, but only so much.

 Silver Age-ness: 0/10
Yeah, right.

Depression scale: 10/10
Does it stand the test of time? -10/10
This is no longer a superhero book. This is a book that truly believes superheroes are useless, childish silly characters that don’t serve any practical purpose and should be left in the background to focus on other things. Sure, a couple of heroes TALK about sitting out the war for idealistic reasons, but the soldiers are proven right.
The fact that superheroes in stories set in the present day don’t get mixed up with wars is a narrative convention that is useful to keep the parallel with real life. One of the main attractions of having the Legion in a different millennium is that you don’t have to worry about any of that, but instead of taking advantage of it… this book repeatedly sidelines them while piling on so much misery porn that you are left feeling absolutely nothing.


Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #35 (1992)
plot and breakdowns by Keith Giffen
dialogue and story assist by Tom & Mary Bierbaum
pencils by Jason Pearson
cover by Karl Story

If you thought Sun Boy couldn’t be made to suffer more than he already has… you were lucky enough to avoid the next two issues.

When reviewing the previous issue, I had a moment of doubt asking myself “Am I being too harsh on the Legion for sitting this one out?”.
The first page of THIS issue makes me wonder if I wasn’t harsh enough.

Mon-El is supposed to be the moral pillar of the Galaxy, people.
He COULD use his powers to actually save people, but the plot says otherwise.

The only reason Mon-El didn’t stop these people… despite ACKNOWLEDGING THAT HE COULD… is that he has to force a Dominator to surrender.
NEXT PAGE.
Why in the name of Professor Potter couldn’t he save those people first and THEN deal with the Dominator!??!?

The 30th century is as thirsty for the Legion to FINALLY ACT LIKE THE LEGION as me.

Notice that this is all thanks to the SW6 Legion, who is ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING WHILE THE ADULTS ARE NOWHERE TO BE SEEN.

Despite their efforts, however, the pivotal moment of the war is OFF-PANEL… AGAIN… because the Khunds took over the Dominator homeworld.

There’s a full text page with the message from the United Planets to Earth, which I admit is a nice touch. But when they’re praising the Legion, it has to be only the SW6 Legion right?

Well that was good news, so I guess the book is contractually obligated to double down on misery porn by having Sun Boy drag his charred remains around…

…and even meet his SW6 counterpart.
While calling for “Alicia” the whole time. Who is Alicia again?

Did Sun Boy kill the Bierbaum’s dog or something? This goes so overboard in destroying him that I would question a psychiatrist.

Also Bounty can SOMEHOW still recognize him.

Hey one of the adult Legionnaires actually DOES SOMETHING!!!

Me whenever one of the adult Legionnaires recalls how to be a hero.

The face of the human resistance ends up being Invisible Kid II.

And if you thought Invisible Kid II is being too harsh… he still manages to avoid unnecessary killing!

But finally, the Dominators officially surrender.

Time to celebrate!

Invisible Kid II then becomes President of Earth, because that’s how it works apparently.
Look he DID handle the rebellion better than anyone else in the series, but this feels weird.

Wait if this was all Universo’s plan, why didn’t HE become President?

The text page has SW6 Shrinking Violet talk about her crush on Devlin.
Man I hope they drop the gimmick of her writing with letters that don’t work, because this is very hard to read.

The Grid: 22 pages out of 25. Pray for me.
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Legion significance: 8/10
While it’s not the official end of the Terra Mosaic, it feels like an ending more than the following issue. Not only this marks the conclusion of some of the most prominent subplots that had been going on since the start of Volume 4, it also has Invisible Kid II as the new President.
This would have been an easy 10/10… if issue 38 didn’t ruin any sort of momentum.
(once again I stress: no spoilers in the comments)

 Silver Age-ness: 0/10
Nope!

Depression scale: 3/10
As if you couldn’t tell, the fact that it takes so much effort for the adult Legionnaires to do anything really rubs me the wrong way. And of course you know my opinion about Sun Boy.
But thankfully the SW6 kids do the heavy lifting of giving hope, plus we have reasons to hope for a happy ending! I mean, we won’t GET it because it’s the 5YL era, but still.

Does it stand the test of time? 6/10
I understand why the Terra Mosaic storyline gets praised. In fact, if it only focused on the SW6 kids and a couple of subplots, I would really like it. But you have to cut a lot of stuff that I don’t think works, like basically ANYTHING the adult Legionnaires do (or don’t do).
I also hate the fact that one of the major reasons for Earth winning the fight… the Khund invasion of their homeworld… is entirely disconnected from anything the Legion does.
We really couldn’t save one lousy page to showing any Legion ally cut a deal with the Khunds or something like that?


Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #36 (1992)
plot and breakdowns by Keith Giffen
dialogue and story assist by Tom & Mary Bierbaum
cover and pencils by Jason Pearson

That sure felt like an ending to the storyline, right? But no, apparently the most pressing question of the Terra Mosaic must have been “What if Sade and Bounty fought?”.
The sequel to “What if we cared about Sade and Bounty?”, I guess.

I need to remind you that Infectious Lass is both immune to any disease AND carries every single disease known to the Galaxy. That she could give anyone, at will.
If THAT doesn’t tell you that Invisible Kid II is serious in his relationship, I don’t know what would!

Don’t let the slightly upbeat ending of issue 35 fool you. This is still a depressionfest.
(also I still can’t believe this guy is Tyroc)

I’ve mentioned several times that Matter-Eater Lad is one of the characters… perhaps the only one… that benefits from the 5YL era.
While I’m one of those who appreciates this version, there are moments where I understand its critics that say it turned M.E.L into an idiot.

So, uhm, are we sure Duo Damsel has not been replaced by a Durlan shapeshifter?

The cover promises that the fight between Bounty and Sade will be the driving force of the issue, but we start off with Bounty fighting with Circe about who gets to keep the dying living corpse of Sun Boy.

So Bounty just leaves. Against the wishes of the voices in her head.

Circe is mad at the SW6 Legionnaires because she blames the Legion for Sun Boy’s demise.
This really makes me wonder if the Bierbaums are the ones to do this? They’re not exactly subtle in how they handle characters.

Even if you agree with the deconstruction of Sun Boy… I absolutely don’t, but for the sake of argument… he’s had a resolution to his tragedy. Now what’s even the point of having him still around, in agonizing pain and begging for his life?
MAYBE if he was trying to teach a lesson to his younger counterpart… “don’t do this or you’ll end up like me”… MAYBE it could have worked.
Like this? Just misery porn.

What the… Laurel Gand suggesting to Mon-El they both “get back to their own time”?
Since this is the SW6 version I really hope she means going back to the Adventure Comics times, because otherwise it would mean the writers forgot that she’s from the 30th century!

Also because BRAINIAC 5 CANNOT DO ANYTHING IN THIS VOLUME, he’s not going to prove whether the SW6 Legionnaires are clones or the originals.

The SW6 Light Lass… who I guess just recalled she’s in this too, because she hasn’t done anything so far… absolves Mon-El for taking any blame about the deaths occurring during the war.
That’s certainly a consolation for the people he admitted he COULD have saved.

Despite announcing she would leave Bounty is still around the Legionnaires, and we continue the theme of treating the young Legionnaires as vapid airheads.

And after 10 pages we get to the reason why the cover of the last Terra Mosaic chapter is dedicated to Bounty and Sade…

…specifically, their pointless fight.

WHY ARE WE GIVING SO MUCH ATTENTION TO THESE PEOPLE!?!?

Once Sade kills Bounty… all while MON-EL STANDS THERE DOING NOTHING, I might add… we discover Bounty is being possessed.

In fact, Bounty has been Dawnstar the entire time (!!!), and it was apparently obvious!?

Yeah I mean OBVIOUSLY we picked up the similarities!
Dawnstar is a stuck-up space hippie with wings who is never seen without her space tiara.
Bounty is a trigger happy mercenary without wings who never wears a space tiara and has a stupid tattoo on her face.
Did I mention one of those two doesn’t have wings?
THEY DON’T EVEN HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF LIMBS, how was this obvious!?!?

Cosmic Boy continues to be a moron: one of your former teammates was possessed by an murderous entity and you need SOMEONE ELSE to tell you that you should investigate!?
Also we keep being vague about who is the clone.

Light Lass tries to lighten up the mood with some fanservice, but I’m to distracted by her completely inhuman anatomy.

With that… whatever the heck that was… over, we can return to our regular depression.

SW6 Cosmic Boy tries to cheer up the young Sun Boy, hoping that the tragedy of his older self will eventually mean something.

It doesn’t. Sun Boy is euthanized by Circe.

Who then kills herself.

Element Lad decides to leave Earth. I guess being useful for FIVE MINUTES was too much.
He did so little that I didn’t move him from the reserves to the regulars.

And we close the issue that contains euthanasia and suicide with a positive note.
It won’t last long, because 5YL.

The Grid: 24 pages out of 24. There is no God.
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Legion significance: 2/10
Can you believe this series is NOT EVEN DONE desecrating Sun Boy? Of course you do, at this point. Mercifully it will take some time before that final insult.

 Silver Age-ness: –/10
For context: in five years I have never gone below a 0/10.

Depression scale: /10
For context: the last time it was so high, the Moon blew up killing billions of people.

Does it stand the test of time? -99/10
Currently standing at the lowest score on this site in the category.
Say what you will about Metal Men #20, World’s Finest #174 and World’s Finest #222… they’re bad and with bad messages, but at least they’re entertaining and fun.
This is neither. I’m even struggling to express why and how it’s so bad.
I gave issue 28 a -30/10 score because at least I recognized there was a creative reasoning behind butchering Sun Boy. I don’t think the story accomplished its goal, AT ALL, but I could respect the intention. I just can’t with this one.
I never want to look at his comic ever again in my life.


Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #37 (1992)
written by Tom & Mary Bierbaum
pencils by June Brigman
cover by Brian Stelfreeze

Well… that was awful. While this review is already waaaay too long, I couldn’t bring myself to end with such a downer… so let’s go with an issue that is almost filler.

The Annual showed ups that Star Boy is now the coach of a Future Baseball team, so for some reason let’s catch up with him.

And if you didn’t like the Annual’s depiction of Dream Girl as a vapid horndog… you’re going to like her even less here.
She’s currently High Seer of her planet, which apparently means going around with boy-toys.

It’s abundantly clear that the Bierbaums reeeeally don’t like Dream Girl, so they have Star Boy marry someone else.

They’re not exactly subtle about the fact that she wants him back to sleep with him, not because she has feelings for him or because he could still be a hero.

Saturn Girl is attacked by an obscured figure who’s after her kids. This is not picked up in the rest of the story.

So what IS this story about?

Well it’s a, uhm, it’s a baseball story? I guess? Honestly I find this entire thing so mind-numbingly boring that I struggle to keep my eyes open.

But can you blame me when even Star Boy seems asleep!?

If you’re wondering if Star Boy ended up marrying a woman who resembles Dream Girl when she was younger… well like I said the Bierbaums are not exactly subtle writers.

The artwork is nothing special, but holy crap is it a breath of fresh air to be able to tell characters apart again!!!

I sure am glad we’re dedicating a whole issue to a freaking baseball game instead dealing with EARTH BEING LIBERATED AFTER A TYRANNICAL RULE.

Yeah I guess this is more important.

Meanwhile the SW6 Mon-El attempts to use the Time Bubble™ to escape from this era.
I feel you, buddy.

And we close the story with Dream Girl trying to convince Star Boy to cheat on his wife.
Stay classy, 5YL.

The Grid: 2 pages out of 24. I would rejoice if I cared about this issue.
22 pages without a grid
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Legion significance: 0/10
Fluff.

Silver Age-ness: 4/10
There’s a gorilla player. I’ll take what I can get in this era.

Depression scale: 5/10
Yes it’s a breather issue. But it’s also Star Boy ditching being a superhero to coach and Dream Girl being a lazy hedonist while completely ignoring there was a whole war going on.

Does it stand the test of time? 3/10
I might have liked it more if the previous issued had not crushed my spirit, and if I didn’t know that the next issue will be another devastating blow.
But even with that… Star Boy is profoundly uninteresting, Dream Girl is just insulting, and I struggle to find reasons for spending money on this.
Well the artwork’s nice and there are some good alien designs here and there.


We are legion
Adding Kid Quantum and Sun Boy as a deceased members, and I’m moving SW6 Mon-El on the reserves.

27 active Legionnaires
4 reserve members
32 resigned members
16 deceased members
79 people have been members
62 people have been rejected


Interesting letters: it’s always jarring for me to see praise like this for issue 28, because I feel like I’ve stumbled on people from a parallel dimension where they published a different comic from the one that I’ve read.

Like some of my readers, Rob also found it difficult to reconcile Sun Boy’s attitude with the character we followed for years.
(letter cut for brevity)

Other readers have harsher words.

The Bierbaums themselves acknowledge that letters like Victor’s are the minority.

And these were just the letters published in #33!!!

The letters page of #34 is replaced by advertisements for the upcoming spinoffs for Timber Wolf and Valor, as well as the new Legionnaires series.
But it also has a tease for #38 that sounds pretty spot-on for what we’ll get, which is weird considering the reputation of #38 of being an utter surprise for the editors.
We’ll discuss that in detail, as issue 38 will get a standalone review.

You can thank and blame Keith Giffen for Terra Mosaic.

I feel you, Carl. Believe me I do.

Issue 37 has the reactions to the annual. Some positive…

…and some are not. Good call on pointing out that the celebration was taking place while Earth was still under siege!

Reactions to the Proty retcon are mixed at best.

Several readers are indignant of the suggestion that Duo Damsel was cheating on her husband. I thought that the Annual was relatively clear about that being Colossal Boy’s shapeshifting wife, but I find it worrying that the Bierbaums don’t try correcting them.


And that’s a wrap on this overly long review. As if you couldn’t tell I really, REALLY wanted to get out of this period as fast as I possibly could.

Next we’ll take a bit of a breather, taking a look at the first issues of the Valor series and at the infamous Timber Wolf limited series.
Only after that we will resume with issue 38.

Maybe I’ll eventually stumble on something more enjoyable than getting through these last five issues… like chewing glass, for example.

12 thoughts on “Legion of Super-Heroes v4 #33-37”

  1. Why is this book even called “Legion of Super-Heroes” if the Legionnaires are the characters showing up the least!?

    Remember that three-year period when Superman barely appeared in his book, because a new writer had come in and introduced a bunch of new characters that he wanted to focus on?

    No, of course you don’t, because the editor vetoed that stupid idea. I guess that didn’t happen here.

  2. My usual list of points:

    1) They used Roxxas because he’s insane, so they – hiding behind the veneer of a legitimate Earthgov – had hoped he could be written off as a mad killer (and also not a credible source of information) when captured, rather than have Earthgov found responsible for his activities. They then hired Celeste and Bounty to “investigate” how Roxxas got released because they didn’t think the two were competent and were sure the investigation would go nowhere. At this point, the Dominators already exposed and not above hiring killers outright. (Also, Hunter was just supposed to get the Soul of Antares, not kill anyone.)
    2) Proties I and II intentionally hid the fact that they (and five others) were different from the dumb, pet-like Proteans. (Although by around LSH # 300, it’s clear that Proty II wasn’t interested in hiding its intelligence anymore. Maybe that’s why it was around that time that the sentient Proteans were meeting with Brande for a secret purpose, a Levitz plot that was never followed up until this 5YL issue.)
    3) I agree that the shoehorning in of Kid Quantum and his story is a weird thing to do in the middle of a big storyline. IIRC, the structure of a number of ongoing series at the time were 4-5 issues of continued action with a “rest” issue inserted between. I guess this issue was that one, though it pushed in so much that was irrelevant to the main arc of the book
    4) Who’s working with whom? A handy guide:
    a) The Dominators are not working with anyone else at this point. They have a puppet Earthgov president as a human spokesman, but are not exactly disguising the fact that Earth is under their control.
    b) The Dark Circle is working with Universo against the Dark Circle
    c) Universo is working for himself, albeit against the Dominators, in a mutually beneficial arrangement with Leland McCauley, and is just using the Dark Circle.
    5) Yes, it was acknowledged – didn’t young Lightning Lad just attack a bunch of Dominators “for Val and Cham and Jeckie”? When the SW6ers appear on screen, there’s almost always a reference to those deaths.
    6) I can get with not calling Circe a “good guy”, but she’s clearly acting on the heroic side now. And I thought her tragic character arc at the end made for a great emotional story.
    7) The book is called “The Legion of Super-Heroes” because calling it “The World of the 30th Century” would just be weird. All the characters it features are, if they were not actual Legionnaires prior to this series are newly-created members of the team, or associates and enemies (or ambiguously former enemies) of the team.
    8) The Mon-El not saving those people was the younger Mon-El, and he was forcing himself to stick to an agreed-upon plan that would save the most lives, i.e., destroying whole Dominator bases. If he lets himself get distracted by every small group in danger of their lives (and there were many more all over the world than the one we’d been shown), he’d never complete his vital part of the plan and those bases would be used to kill more people than the few he’d save by engaging. The one on the Dominator ship forcing surrender is the older Mon-El. You can tell by the extra squareness of his jaw.
    9) Alicia – spelled “Alisia” in issue # 28 – is the (retconned) girl who died when Dirk interrupted Dr. Regulus and caused his experiment to explode. (In the original, it was a boy named Zarl Hendricks)
    10) Bounty being able to recognize him is obviously due to her tracking powers, which is the big reveal of the following issue, not that it was well-foreshadowed beforehand.
    11) Yes, Laurel meant the Adventure Comics time. They think they’ve time-traveled to the future, not been cloned (or whatever).
    12) Earth didn’t win the war because of the Khunds (or whoever it was – I believe it’s actually left as a mystery) attacking the Dominator homeworld. In fact, last time we looked in on the Khunds, they weren’t looking to attack the Dominion homeworld, they were planning to use the Dominion’s retreat from the “Aetian frontier” to take that territory.) They won by forcing Pinnacle Command to surrender. Granted, the attack on the Dominion homeworld helped a bit by preventing reinforcement, but the Earth forces still had to defeat the heavily-armed Dominators who were already controlling Earth.
    13) Total agreement with your assessment of that cover of # 36. “The Battle You’ve Been Waiting For – Bounty vs Sade!” Hello? In whose fever dream was anyone waiting for it? We’re not talking about a Reed Richards-Dr. Doom showdown here. We’re not even talking about a Black Mace-Timber Wolf rematch. These two characters (aside from us knowing little about either of them) had nothing to do with each other and never met until inside this book!
    14) The whole Bounty-Dawnstar thing was pretty much out of nowhere, and the idea that Bounty needs some sort of adrenaline rush…it’s really all just thrown in here to lead to the (cover-featured) fight that apparently the creative team wanted to write. I don’t know if this was always planned for the character, but if it was, they should have done a much better job of making her even superficially similar.
    15) Ayla’s “inhuman anatomy” is just an example of how badly Jason Pearson’s art deteriorated over the course of his tenure as Legion penciller. I really liked his work on issues 26-28 (the weird exaggerations of anatomy worked because it was all in Dirk’s head) but after that, every figure was so crude and cartoonish, he seemed to be phoning it in.
    16) The baseball issue is another “rest” issue like the Kid Quantum one, with minimal foreshadowing for what comes next. I’d say it’s meant to showcase Thom’s personality as a simple, black-and-white-morality hero when the rest of the universe seems to be constantly considering the lessers of various evils. I wrote a full article on the issue as part of a series on comic book baseball stories for my favorite baseball web site, if anyone is interested, here’s the link: https://www.royalsreview.com/f/2020/6/11/21276413/kellers-comics-corner-a-thousand-years-later

    1. Again, I totally understand why people wouldn’t love this string of stories. Dirk’s death was particularly egregious and I have never forgiven the writers for how they treated him. But I must admit a lot of these stories including Bounty’s revelation really peaked my interest back then. Upon reflection it’s clear that they really didn’t like dawnstar’s character all that much, nor I guess did they much care for wildfire so I must admit I’m not on the same page as them.

      But I loved the simple heroic story that Starboy starred in and issue 37. I’ll call him Starboy not Thom because I always thought that was a really heroic portrayal of him. Especially the way the story was told. And Chaim, I liked your article especially this piece:

      ” Thom Kallor – ever the simple, straightforward hero – comes out of his own dugout to agree with Offutt that Wyke’s handicapper belt was tampered with and the home run should be disallowed.”

      I think I may have read this story before I read much of his backstory in the Levitz era.

      But I think I always like them partly because of this story, hard luck superhero always trying to do the right thing. Even when he rejected Nura it seemed like a heroic thing for him to do. Probably a little juvenile in thinking but to a young kid at the time, that was what the hero was all about. Doing the right thing.

  3. If Tyroc feels like being eight feet tall, all he has to do is let out the right shout and then he’s eight feet tall. More importantly, the retconned existence of Kid Quantum means that Tyroc isn’t the first Black legionnaire anymore, which is a good thing considering how racist Tyroc’s origin is. I do agree that Kid Quantum worked much better in the reboot. Actually being there as events play out make a huge difference.

    Having Tyroc and Jacques around at the same time is another historic moment. Two Black legionnaires at the same time! Not to mention Catspaw joining up with the SW6 Legion, and the revelation that Danielle Foucault also has powers.

    On the much whiter side of things, who would ever have predicted Infectious Lass as First Lady of Earth?

  4. I have a soft spot in my heart for #37 because it was so off-the-wall. I was never a fan of Star Boy or Dream Girl, so I could accept these depictions. There’s nothing wrong with a superhero retiring and going on to do something else. In a universe where entire populations have the same power, it’s reasonable that not all of them would be heroes or villains. Thom’s power is unique, of course, but the same logic applies.

    A sports tale is a throwback to the “strange sports” stories of earlier eras. And I like it that Thom chooses to remain faithful to his wife. Since TMK went all out to dismantle and destroy any heroism left in the Legion, it’s nice to see a guy just being decent.

  5. I sort of liked these stories when they came out because so little had happened over the first 20 issues of 5YL, and at last things were happening. I also seem to be in a minority of having really liked Jason Pearson’s art during this time because I really enjoyed his innovative layouts, and they he would play with the nine-panel grid in a way Giffen hadn’t done… he would stretch out a single image, like in that dynamic image of Colossal Boy punching out the Dominion ship, over three panels.

    But now reading it again I realize what a bizarre way Giffen and the Bierbaums were painting themselves into a corner with all this. The actual active members of the Legion barely appeared for over 3/4 of a year, and all the action and attention was being given either to the Subs or the SW6 Batch, and there was too much extra business with these non-members like Bounty, Grinn, and Monica Sade who were never fully fleshed-out as characters. (They were all enigmas.) By the time the SW6 Legionnaires had been spun off into their own title, there was nowhere for the members of the adult team to go.

    It’s also interesting looking back to realize now much in the end the Bierbaums really just wanted to write the characters from the team’s glory days in the Adventure run. That seemed to be their whole point in spinning off the SW6 batch. “Legionnaires” was clearly the comic they had always really wanted to write… but sadly for them, they were let go from writing it after just a few issues.

  6. 1 Why were the Legion not fighting in the war?

    I’m not talking about the in-story reason, I mean from a storytelling perspective:

    * The comic book is called “The Legion of Super-Heroes”. Isn’t its audience people who want to read about the Legion?
    * If there is a big war and the legion is not participating, that means we are eating up pages on the comic depicting about a war that the characters in the comic book have nothing to do with.
    * So why even have a war in this comic? Why tell that story in “The Legion of Super-Heroes” if the Legion is not a part of that story? What is it doing in this comic?
    * If they want to have a war affect the legion, why is it not in the background so the comic can focus on the legion?

    2) 1) I wonder how Dawnstar’s fans felt about her reappearing with a completely different personality, face, clothing, and number of limbs, no apparent powers, and only being revealed as Dawnstar after she was killed.

    3) What if instead of telling a summary of Kid Quantum’s story in a text page, we had several references to him sprinkled in previous issues to build intrigue, then he appears and the legion is shocked that he’s alive, then we witness his story in flashback scenes.

    Or I guess instead of telling that story they could introduce a few more characters and subplots.

    1. “no apparent powers, and only being revealed as Dawnstar after she was killed.”.

      No, I don’t even think it’s spoilers to say she’s still alive. Clearly as brainy was describing her she was indicated to still being alive. And bounty clearly had tracking powers, if anything I suppose that was supposed to be the thing that was the clue. As for why they kept her and removed her wings my assumption was always that they were going away from the colorful, superpower world that levitz continued.

      Most of the really powerful characters or subdued in these stories even valor. Many many stories downplayed the powers of the characters; colossal boy was told not to use his powers in one sequence, chameleon boys powers were severely limited in the attack by Roxxas, and you could go on.

      A Dawnstar with wings was not something that the gritty world of 5yl was interested in at all. But her tracking powers? Much more interesting and simple for them to work with. While I wasn’t a fan of hers – she screwed over wildfire too often for that, I did like her power set and was intrigued to see what they might do with her. But in the long run like many of the mystery boxes this run created, it didn’t go anywhere. But for that I don’t blame the creative crew, I blame the editors and DC. They own the characters, it’s their sandbox to control.

  7. Half of the Moon fell on Earth in a fiery shower.
    Earth is, at best, DYING.
    End of story. There should be no one celebrating the end of Dominion, no infrastructures left, no power, no hospitals, no food. United Planets didn’t send help. Within a month, people reverted to cannibalism, sickness is rampant. Nuclear winter will last for DECADES.
    No one remembered at DC that ONE 10Km-asteroid triggered a global extinction and changed Earth’s climate for decades. This is a 100x worse scenario (to be optimistic).
    That is why I cannot relate to these stories. the whole scenario is nonsensical!

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